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If an election were to be held on the 3rd May (likely) which party would recieve your vote.

Labor
[ 9 ] (50%)
LNP
[ 6 ] (33.3%)
Greens
[ 0 ] (0%)
Teal Independent
[ 1 ] (5.6%)
One Nation
[ 0 ] (0%)
Trumpet of Patriots
[ 0 ] (0%)
Local Independent
[ 2 ] (11.1%)
None of the Above
[ 0 ] (0%)

Total Members Voted: 18

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Election 2025 (Poll added)

Well, the demand is overwhelming for this thread, so we might as well give the folks what they want and set it up.

It’s Federal election 2025!
Once again we are absolutely spoiled for choice.

You probably have to feel a little sorry for Clive Palmer who has thrown his support and leadership credentials behind the “Strumpets of Patriots” group.
In the wake of Trump’s success in the states, who wouldn’t think that running with the slogan “Make Australia Great Again!” wasn’t a great idea…even Jacinta Price agreed.

Australia ‘needs’ Trump policies, declares Palmer…
To paraphrase Billy Joel…”You may be right! He may be crazy…but it just may be a lunatic we’re looking for.”

In any event, the recent actions of the POTUS may not be the best act to follow, in terms of popularity.


Who knows what this election will bring.
Labor victory, possibly with a minority government, looks to be the pick at the moment, but that could easily change in the coming weeks.

Re: Election 2025

Reply #1
I watched Q&A (I think) on Ch2 the other night fro the first time ever, it had a liberal guy (Michael someone) and Labour minister Clair Oniel, CoM Dep Mayor Roshena Campbell, Zali Steggal and economist Richard Denniss. The Liberal and Labour folk carried on like children for mine, Zali had some good points but the economist tore them all apart new one in my opinion. He spoke about how Australia is rich nation, we may all feel poor at the moment but our fossil fuel production and export make us very wealthy on a world scale. The problem he said is that we dont tax the screwers, we instead subsidise them!
He stated Norway is equally wealthy from Fossil Fuel production and export but the tax them hard and use that money, amongst other things,  to provide kids with free uni.
It seems all the political parties here either fear the fossil fuel producers and exporters or are in bed with them getting kick backs.
He also raised the points about banks and health insurers making record profits and yet the premiums have increased upwards of 30% in the last 12 months, interest rates have gone up 12 times and these two jokes of industries pay SFA tax.
Its seem clear we need to tax these buggers hard to pay for crap, question is who has the balls to do it?
I found the show very eye opening, people in the audience were asking questions and the bozo ministers just deflected. Its not called politics for nothing I guess, sad state of affairs.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Election 2025

Reply #2
I watched Q&A (I think) on Ch2 the other night fro the first time ever, it had a liberal guy (Michael someone) and Labour minister Clair Oniel, CoM Dep Mayor Roshena Campbell, Zali Steggal and economist Richard Denniss. The Liberal and Labour folk carried on like children for mine, Zali had some good points but the economist tore them all apart new one in my opinion. He spoke about how Australia is rich nation, we may all feel poor at the moment but our fossil fuel production and export make us very wealthy on a world scale. The problem he said is that we dont tax the screwers, we instead subsidise them!
He stated Norway is equally wealthy from Fossil Fuel production and export but the tax them hard and use that money, amongst other things,  to provide kids with free uni.
It seems all the political parties here either fear the fossil fuel producers and exporters or are in bed with them getting kick backs.
He also raised the points about banks and health insurers making record profits and yet the premiums have increased upwards of 30% in the last 12 months, interest rates have gone up 12 times and these two jokes of industries pay SFA tax.
Its seem clear we need to tax these buggers hard to pay for crap, question is who has the balls to do it?
I found the show very eye opening, people in the audience were asking questions and the bozo ministers just deflected. Its not called politics for nothing I guess, sad state of affairs.
Problem is if you heavily tax those institutions they just raise their fees/rates to make up the losses and the public pay. I watched Q and A like you and the economist was the only one whose answers had any credibility or common sense.
Alabanese, Dutton, Palmer , Pauline and Bandt probably tells you where we are at in terms of choice and ability...none have any economic qualifications as we have seen from their ideas to boost home ownership where they will only increase house prices and its impossible to find anyone worthy to vote for.....

Re: Election 2025

Reply #3
I watched Q&A (I think) on Ch2 the other night fro the first time ever, it had a liberal guy (Michael someone) and Labour minister Clair Oniel, CoM Dep Mayor Roshena Campbell, Zali Steggal and economist Richard Denniss. The Liberal and Labour folk carried on like children for mine, Zali had some good points but the economist tore them all apart new one in my opinion. He spoke about how Australia is rich nation, we may all feel poor at the moment but our fossil fuel production and export make us very wealthy on a world scale. The problem he said is that we dont tax the screwers, we instead subsidise them!
He stated Norway is equally wealthy from Fossil Fuel production and export but the tax them hard and use that money, amongst other things,  to provide kids with free uni.
It seems all the political parties here either fear the fossil fuel producers and exporters or are in bed with them getting kick backs.
He also raised the points about banks and health insurers making record profits and yet the premiums have increased upwards of 30% in the last 12 months, interest rates have gone up 12 times and these two jokes of industries pay SFA tax.
Its seem clear we need to tax these buggers hard to pay for crap, question is who has the balls to do it?
I found the show very eye opening, people in the audience were asking questions and the bozo ministers just deflected. Its not called politics for nothing I guess, sad state of affairs.

Given the significant rightward drift of the global political climate in recent decades, advocating that the wealthy and corporations pay their fair share of tax is basically a Bernie Sanders policy.

Re: Election 2025

Reply #4
The sad part is, we all know, no matter what happens, the status quo will remain, we will get thrown a bone, we will pay for that bone from somewhere currently obscure, and life will continue until the next election.

All that changes is the next batch of elected leaders, who will get a fat pension worth more than my super every will be for the rest of their days. 

I dont see how anyone can expect anything to change whilst that remains.  I wonder if they cut the slush fund whether or not that would change things for the better.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Election 2025

Reply #5
The sad part is, we all know, no matter what happens, the status quo will remain, we will get thrown a bone, we will pay for that bone from somewhere currently obscure, and life will continue until the next election.

All that changes is the next batch of elected leaders, who will get a fat pension worth more than my super every will be for the rest of their days. 

I dont see how anyone can expect anything to change whilst that remains.  I wonder if they cut the slush fund whether or not that would change things for the better.

When I was a kid, those policies (fairer tax structures) were mainstream. Now they're fringe.

There will always be groups / individuals who will want to skew things in their favour, at great cost to everyone else. We need a far more active, resistant constituency, who will fight for their hard earned rights, and demand the politicians be accountable.  To quote Karl Popper, "The question is not how to get good people to rule; the question is: how to stop the powerful from doing as much damage as they can to us."

Re: Election 2025

Reply #6
Been getting some very unsavoury material in my letterbox & and it isn't from any party.  Looks like some branch of some right wing fascists....and they clearly don't like Albanese.  Lot of disinformation and BS flying around - more so than usual.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Election 2025

Reply #7
Been getting some very unsavoury material in my letterbox & and it isn't from any party.  Looks like some branch of some right wing fascists....and they clearly don't like Albanese.  Lot of disinformation and BS flying around - more so than usual.

Just a follow on from the us…
Dutton, Palmer, Hansen…
Let’s go BIG !

Re: Election 2025

Reply #8
So let's move on the the current election.  Was reading through our independents policies and came across one i found interesting.  They want to do away with stamp duty and implement a land tax instead.  Now personally I read this and thought how disgraceful.  I've paid my whack of stamp duty why should I now have to continue paying land tax because of policy change?

Is this only going to apply for new purchases?

What's to stop the degree of land tax shifting?

Very dissapointed to see but curious, what do people think of this?


"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Election 2025

Reply #9
Hard to believe Albo is leading the polls. Says more about the lack of opposition that the worse PM in our history is favorite to get another term.  

HTF that goose gets to lead any country says a lot of the deplorable state of politics in this country. 

Re: Election 2025

Reply #10
Hard to believe Albo is leading the polls. Says more about the lack of opposition that the worse PM in our history is favorite to get another term.  

HTF that goose gets to lead any country says a lot of the deplorable state of politics in this country. 
All you hear is people complaining about the state of the nation and our state (cost of living, int rates, youth crime, DV etc) and yet the goons whose watch all this occurred on will get re-elected. There is no choice as they are all as pathetic as one another, I have never been so disillusioned leading up to an election. I had hoped in my lifetime I would get to see a decent public servant rise to the occasion to lead our state and nation however I doubt I will.  I wish at least some level of accountability for policy implementation promised during the campaigns could be put in place.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Election 2025

Reply #11
So let's move on the the current election.  Was reading through our independents policies and came across one i found interesting.  They want to do away with stamp duty and implement a land tax instead.  Now personally I read this and thought how disgraceful.  I've paid my whack of stamp duty why should I now have to continue paying land tax because of policy change?

Is this only going to apply for new purchases?

What's to stop the degree of land tax shifting?

Very dissapointed to see but curious, what do people think of this?



Is that independent one of the Teal candidates Thry?
There's a good chance the next government will be a minority one.
It may be that that Teal group are in a position to have some influence over decision making.
If it's just an 'independent' indendent they can say what they like because they'll never have to deliver.

That group of Palmer's are promising a lot of things they'll never be in a position to deliver.


Re: Election 2025

Reply #12
Hard to believe Albo is leading the polls. Says more about the lack of opposition that the worse PM in our history is favorite to get another term.  

HTF that goose gets to lead any country says a lot of the deplorable state of politics in this country. 

It does say a lot about the opposition.
If they lose, Dutton will no doubt be rolled....but can anyone think of a replacement in that party who would be any more electable, certainly not Susan Ley the current deputy.

Re: Election 2025

Reply #13
Hard to believe Albo is leading the polls. Says more about the lack of opposition that the worse PM in our history is favorite to get another term.  

HTF that goose gets to lead any country says a lot of the deplorable state of politics in this country. 

It does say a lot about the opposition.
If they lose, Dutton will no doubt be rolled....but can anyone think of a replacement in that party who would be any more electable, certainly not Susan Ley the current deputy.
Susan Ley? Good Lord no! Dutton was the wrong choice to lead the Libs but the cupboard was and still is bare for them. How bad are the opposition  parties when they can't knock off movements who have performed so poorly. Promised much and delivered nothing.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Election 2025 (Poll added)

Reply #14
Let's get a look at our political leanings as a group...

I've added a poll to the thread.
If I've left out a major group let me know and I'll fix it up
(early rise for the dawn service and I'm a bit of a zombie at the moment :D )