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Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #15 –
There's been a fair bit of discussion in the 'post match' thread, particularly regarding the inclusion of Moir despite indifferent VFL form.

I've been arguing against him, based on his VFL game but...
It's one of those moves that could pay off and he could kick three or four.
On the other hand we could end up with him having little or no impact.
It's one of those 'roll the dice' moves where we don't really know what we'll get.
So I wouldn't be surprised if he's picked and has an impact.

A lot will depend on who is available, and how many players get dropped.
Is it "roll the dice time!"

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #16 –
Id play Moir in the seniors regardless of form and use it as education to fast track him, be doing the same with Lemmey and not rushing Harry back out of desperation. Don't expect any thing more than effort and I'd be doing the same with other young players but not all at once or we will get carved up.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #17 –
Whatever other issues are in play, it's far from ideal that we are coming off a short break, and Collingwood are coming off a bye.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #18 –
this might sound strange but sometimes the team with the spell /break it works against themand team without the breqak looks fresher 

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #19 –
Quote from: pew2 – on
this might sound strange but sometimes the team with the spell /break it works against themand team without the breqak looks fresher 
Won't work against them Thurs, some of our blokes look all busted up already.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #20 –
Blues vs Pies games don't get decided by ladder position form, recent history and I still give us a chance to win the game.
Pies will be favourites and probably feeling a bit cocky and good about their chances but it usually isn't pretty footy and if we can catch them off guard there will be an upset imo.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #21 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Blues vs Pies games don't get decided by ladder position form, recent history and I still give us a chance to win the game.
Pies will be favourites and probably feeling a bit cocky and good about their chances but it usually isn't pretty footy and if we can catch them off guard their will be an upset imo.

I said the same thing to a bunch of collingwood mates prior to the Richmond game about the tigers.
How right i was.
Hopefully it works in reverse now.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #22 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Blues vs Pies games don't get decided by ladder position form, recent history and I still give us a chance to win the game.
Pies will be favourites and probably feeling a bit cocky and good about their chances but it usually isn't pretty footy and if we can catch them off guard there will be an upset imo.

Last 20
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Our record against these pricks is very poor.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #23 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Blues vs Pies games don't get decided by ladder position form, recent history and I still give us a chance to win the game.
Pies will be favourites and probably feeling a bit cocky and good about their chances but it usually isn't pretty footy and if we can catch them off guard there will be an upset imo.

Last 20
LLLLL WLWLL LLLWL LLWLL
Our record against these pricks is very poor.
Not great but could also mean we are due.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #24 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Last 20
LLLLL WLWLL LLLWL LLWLL
Our record against these pricks is very poor.
Not great but could also mean we are due.
We are due nothing on current form EB.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #25 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

Not great but could also mean we are due.
We are due nothing on current form EB.
Yep.

I have us beating west coast and no one else without a proper turn of form.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #26 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on

Yep.

I have us beating west coast and no one else without a proper turn of form.


Interesting seeing Doc talk on the news tonight (at the Peter Mac presser), he spoke about their poor ball use like it could be fixed. I'm not as confident as him.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #27 –
Players out of form and below their seasonal averages and becoming a liability.

Acres
Fogarty
McGovern
O. Hollands
Docherty
Williams

Saad, Walsh(injury) Charlie (injury) , Haynes next in line

If it was up to me I would not play either of them and try to find some form in VFL just kicking the can down the road with these blokes.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #28 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Players out of form and below their seasonal averages and becoming a liability.

Acres
Fogarty
McGovern
O. Hollands
Docherty
Williams

Saad, Walsh(injury) Charlie (injury) , Haynes next in line

If it was up to me I would not play either of them and try to find some form in VFL just kicking the can down the road with these blokes.

You'll be looking for a while in the 2s to find replacements. If your criteria is two arms, two legs and a pulse, you should be right.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood at MCG

Reply #29 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: pinot – on
Players out of form and below their seasonal averages and becoming a liability.

Acres
Fogarty
McGovern
O. Hollands
Docherty
Williams

Saad, Walsh(injury) Charlie (injury) , Haynes next in line

If it was up to me I would not play either of them and try to find some form in VFL just kicking the can down the road with these blokes.

You'll be looking for a while in the 2s to find replacements. If your criteria is two arms, two legs and a pulse, you should be right.

These guys are no where near their seasonal averages and no idea if they will get there. Time to unearth some talent.

Carrol, Binns, Moir, Wilson, Lemmey play them.