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Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #75 –
Such a richly deserved accolade for so much commitment and hard work over many years.

Plus such an impressive attitude to life.

And what an engaging interview with Hamish then acceptance speech. Humility, gratitude, thoughtful and class personified.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #76 –
Clearly best player in the league this year, nice to see him recognised.  Pretty clear that he added outside hurt to his clearance game to his game this year e.g. against Port where he not only was front and centre to the umpires at the coalface, but the outside work was excellent.

But 45 votes seems excessive, as does Walsh's tally.

DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #77 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Sigh. Just do a google search for “Brownlow Medal.” The whining and bitching has already started.
People can whine all they like. Good things come to good people and Patrick is just that, a good, solid, hardworking person who was brought up the right way. Those around him, family, team mates, coaches, opposition players, opposition coaches and umpires know exactly just how good a person and player he is. Let those people judge and influence opinion, not the dingbats typing away on forums, facebook and twitter and the like. They are just ill informed and uneducated and a more worthy winner you will be hard pressed to find.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #78 –
I think Crippa is certainly in the discussion for greatest Blue of all time - especially the way he continues to reinvent his game (in July 2021, Leigh Matthews said of Cripps that the game may have 'passed him by' - and he's won 2 Brownlows since then......).  Umpires certainly love him, he got votes in some games where he was just part of the peloton......(Ess and Freo games spring to mind).

But, and here is the big but.  Cripps performance in the Brownlow since 2022, as remarkable as it is, underlines the deficiencies in our team.  

We need more blokes getting 4-10 votes if we are to be a top-flight contender.  Serious opponents know that shutting down Crippa and to a lesser extent Walsh is all they really need to concentrate on.  We have to spread the load more or Crippa will never get to hold the cup. 

Having got that off my chest, well done Crippa, a truly remarkable footballer, and by all accounts, a top-shelf human!
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #79 –
The umpires gave him BOG in 12 games.
Here at CSC we voted him our best player in 11 games.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #80 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
The umpires gave him BOG in 12 games.
Here at CSC we voted him our best player in 11 games.
That simply just doesn't happen by accident or mistake. What a marvel.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #81 –
Many of our losses after the bye were close, tightly fought affairs, so not surprising that Cripps would poll in those IMO.

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #82 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Many of our losses after the bye were close, tightly fought affairs, so not surprising that Cripps would poll in those IMO.
Lets not let facts get in the way of good stories by the naysayers.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #83 –
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/make-your-head-explode-brownlow-under-fire/ar-AA1r590f

There are a few things wrong with a voting sysytem that basically means that if you're not a mid-fielder or a flanker it's difficult to see you winning.

But while the system is what it is, one of the things we don't need to see is judgements being made on statistics.

An umpire having a front row seat to the impact a player has at the contest doesn't need a set of statistics changing his point of view.

If a player makes more of an impression with 19 disposals than someone else does with 30... so be it.

This is the major line from the article....
"While Cripps thoroughly deserved the medal"

Full stop...
Cripps thoroughly deserved the medal.

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #84 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Didn't help that Nick was stealing Josh's votes.

Twice at the very least. Nick got votes v Melbourne, King's Birthday, after getting subbed off with 15 possessions, while Josh got none for getting 34. Similar last round too when Josh got 40 touches. Nick played well but Josh should have got 3 votes, not 1. Nick got the 3.

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #85 –
Cripps polled 45 votes with 2 or 3 blokes hanging off him every week. My personal hope is that coaches will now conclude that he, like Dustin Martin, is basically untaggable, and will leave him be, and try to find other ways of beating us. I can't possibly imagine they think that playing half the team on him will be a recipe for success.

Wishful thinking no doubt.

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #86 –
The best two players came first and second. Neither had team mates who took votes off them like Heeney and Bontempelli. Umpires get voting wrong all the time like coaches, players, spectators and so called experts. The system is like it is and has been like it is for a hundred years. People need to get over it.
Well done Crippa, I thought it was his best season and I know I have voted for him more this season than in the past.

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #87 –
Before the count, there were various "Predictors" for Cripps, Daicos, Bont, Serong, Neale, Heeney, a two way or three way tie, one even an outsider (Merrett).

Today after the count they are either claiming they predicted Cripps would win, among one of the various other possibilities listed, or they are complaining about how Brownlow got it wrong again.

There's your problem, right there! ::)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #88 –
https://au.yahoo.com/sports/ben-cousins-detail-comes-to-light-as-afl-world-calls-for-change-over-brownlow-medal-madness-225924386.html

Not sure what Ben Cousins has to do with P. Cripps winning the brownlow this season but there seem a lot of unhappy folk  other than Carlton supporters. I thought Cripps had a better season than when he won his first brownlow and took his game to a new level yet the voting system is being challenged again and the players association voting deemed a better indicator.
The skipper got 45 votes because he earned them imho and yep a few players missed on votes like Bont, like usually what happens in some games but it was a convincing victory by our man and his win has been devalued by all this whinging about umpires not being the best judges and 45 votes being an unreasonable number.
If this was Nick Daicos with the same number of votes would we have had the same carry on?

Re: 2024 Brownlow Medal Thread

Reply #89 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
If this was Nick Daicos with the same number of votes would we have had the same carry on?
A lot of them are spurned Daicos lovers, they announced his success before it happened, went early, pulled the trigger, and now they have the bitterness of unrequited love!

The tell in the Yahoo clown article is the following wording, "... according to the Player Ratings system", like there is just one, the one, when in fact there are many, and they all use a different formula. The weights applied to stats are arbitrary.

What I think the article really means to say is, " .................... according to the Player ratings system that I prefer" but he must have left the last bit off!

btw., When BT stalked the umpires post game we found out they lock themselves in a room, no phones, no computers, and vote straight after the game, no stats, no external influences, just what they witnessed and remember happening on the field. They even take off the broadcaster's Mics so nobody can eavesdrop.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"