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Like any big business when you do that though you have to wear the incoming and admit your mistakes. It's been a wasted year due to injury etc but to rock up in a elimination final and give nothing for half a game isn't going to be tolerated that's not injury etc that's players and coaches not up for the fight and it was down right embarrassing and revisiting the dark days.

100%, the gamble was that if we won, the returning players had a game under their belt.

While I agree with that Paul, as Daisy Thomas pointed out, our arousal level was far too low at the start of the game.  That’s largely a collective coaching responsibility but with Vossy bearing the lion’s share (oops!).  The leadership group also has to take some of the blame.

I’m always impressed by Vossy’s calm demeanour, but perhaps he was too calm and needed to rev the boys up a tad more.  He does seem to learn from his mistakes and I don’t expect to see low arousal levels again.

I don’t buy the criticism of Vossy’s game day coaching.  He’s as good as the next coach and his planning and preparation is very good.  Injuries, and the lack of depth those injuries exposed, screwed our season.

It seems to me that we have lost too many games where we are well in front and lose.
Last year's final against Brisbane, Swans this year, Giants & Bulldogs.
No plan B when the opposition have us worked out!!!
This game we were worked out before the bounce and again had no answer!!!

I mean, that's not quite right. We won the 2nd half quite convincingly, on the back of a few things, which included adjustments and changes made by the coaches. It was of course too little too late, but there was a Plan B and it worked.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2024-carlton-blues-player-ratings-vs-brisbane-lions-from-first-elimination-final-patrick-cripps-sam-docherty-highlights-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/466ffeed2df7cb0d0b307fcfb86edf3f

Worst players...
Williams - 2
Durdin - 2
Motlop - 3
O. Hollands - 3
Kennedy - 3
Fantasia - 4
Cowan - 4
Cerra - 4
Kemp - 4
Saad - 4

4 small forwards and cerra was who I had an issue with pre-game.

5 of our worst 10 players were from that group including the worst 2.

I also had an issue with tdk starting as sub and said he shouldve started.
Tdk - 6
Pittonet - 6
Walsh - 6
Newman - 6
Weitering - 6
Acres - 7
Cripps - 8
Hewett - 8

'Post game experts' they say.


The loss is hard enough to take.
But when you can highlight the issues before the game (and I'm not alone in this) it makes it all that harder to take.

I mean, that's not quite right. We won the 2nd half quite convincingly, on the back of a few things, which included adjustments and changes made by the coaches. It was of course too little too late, but there was a Plan B and it worked.

Not sure who Jack Jovanovski is - but that read as though a Pies or Dons supporter wrote it.   Managed to stick the boots into EVERY player and seemed to enjoy it.  I know we were woeful, but FOX probably shouldnt have a work experieince kid, with a skinful, writing the player reviews

The cue was in the rack in the 2nd half, lets be honest about it. Even Fagan said, we were nover going to win that game.

All I know is, there may be plenty of excuses, but we have to find an answer for those excuses......

Get tough and do it!   FFS, if McGovern kicked the goal after the siren and we'd held on against the Saints, we would have been playing Port Adelaide in the Qualifying final.

We need to find the ruthless edge again - for me, we play too nice......

The last couple of junk time goals yes I agree. But not before that IMO.

Nathan Buckley has just slammed the tactic of playing E Hollands behind the ball early and leaving us one short down forward fuelling Zorko. Doesnt buy the injury excuse given the poor effort.
The Kennedy sub fiasco, selecting unfit players etc....I like Voss the man but his tactics are questionable and he is in charge and ultimately responsible.