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Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #45 –
If the MC has something to explain, it's playing blokes who weren't fit, and persisting with blokes who have hardly touched it all season.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #46 –
Quote from: LP on
The Sub, whoever is in the Sub seat, has no bearing on what happened in the first half for us tonight, and they have no bearing on the result before they get on the ground.

Still don't pick a ruck as a sub. Pick someone who can come on fresh that has some run. Like the damage Campbell did to GWS today when he come on.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #47 –
Quote from: LP on
If the MC has something to explain, it's playing blokes who weren't fit, and persisting with blokes who have hardly touched it all season.

You got that right.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #48 –
Quote from: laj on
Still don't pick a ruck as a sub. Pick someone who can come on fresh that has some run. Like the damage Campbell did to GWS today when he come on.
Focussing on the Sub is a distraction, it's completely missing the point of what went wrong for the first 50 minutes.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #49 –
Some "experts" on here want to make the Sub about the rucks, they are sh1t talkers, they signalled this intent even before the first ball was bounced.

In that regard with TDK on the bench we basically went with the "experts" preferred option, one ruck and an extra Mids to run and link up, and had our arse handed to us to the tune of almost 10 goals!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #50 –
Quote from: LP on
The Sub, whoever is in the Sub seat, has no bearing on what happened in the first half for us tonight, and they have no bearing on the result before they get on the ground.

The sub had no bearing on what happened.

But the player who was the sub, should never be the sub.
He was needed as a 2nd forward / ruck.
The TEAM needed a 2nd forward / ruck.

Now either TDK was ready to play or he wasn't.

If he is ready, he plays in the 22.
if he isn't ready, he is not in the 23.
He does not play as the 23rd player.

If you wanted to swap TDK and Kemp, that i can accept a bit better, still not ideal, but its better.
If you wanted to swap TDK and Kennedy, that is a bit better again, still not ideal, but offers plenty of versatility.

TDK as sub (or Pittonet) or any other ruck doesn't work. Especially when you haven't got 2 key forwards on the ground.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #51 –
Quote from: shawny on
Im with you cookie. Its so hard to fail year after year after year when we have endured the longest rebuild known to mankind. We should have been contesting for the flag this year there is no stand out team it would have been a great year to strike but again when it matters we fall short. Sure injuries late in the year made it harder but serious teams dont drop the games we did when injuries werent an issue.

And to see teams like geelong and hawthorn still alive just makes it that much harder to accept.

Need some big gutsy changes if we are going to go further next year. The current list (injuries or not) wont take us deep into finals so be interesting to see what the club does to change things in the off season.
The concern is too if we run with the same list we are probably going to be passed by a couple of other teams who will improve like Hawthorn have and we could be battling to make the eight.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #52 –
Quote from: LP on
Some "experts" on here want to make the Sub about the rucks, they are sh1t talkers, they signalled this intent even before the first ball was bounced.

In that regard with TDK on the bench we basically went with the "experts" preferred option, one ruck and an extra Mids to run and link up, and had our arse handed to us to the tune of almost 10 goals!

There is only 1 crap talker on here.

Every man and his dog is in agreement.

TDK and Pitto both needed to play because Charlie didn't.
I said as much, as did plenty of other '1-ruckers' when the side was picked.

You are a fan of dunning-kruger. Look in the mirror and you'll see the picture next to the explanation.

You are so far off the mark its embarrassing.
YOUR focus on the ruck is the issue here.
 

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #53 –
Something else that has been on my mind ........

Who here considers an elimination final a "handicap event" ??

Because that's how our players approached it .............. if you have forgotten what the scoreline was late in the second quarter, it was 60-0 ............ yes, that's right, we gave the Lions a 10-goal headstart ...................... and it went on for so long that it appeared that our players weren't even affected or angry by that situation .......... it was a goodam cut-throat final FFS, where was the discipline, the fight & the will-to-win when the game was still there to be won.

60-0

60-0

60-0

And those guys get paid exorbitant amounts of money too !!

Some papers were stamped tonight, there will be casualities, or there should be.
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #54 –
Quote from: LP on
Focussing on the Sub is a distraction, it's completely missing the point of what went wrong for the first 50 minutes.


There is that but it is still a mind boggling decision.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #55 –
Quote from: LordLucifer on
Something else that has been on my mind ........

Who here considers an elimination final a "handicap event" ??

Because that's how our players approached it .............. if you have forgotten what the scoreline was late in the second quarter, it was 60-0 ............ yes, that's right, we gave the Lions a 10-goal headstart ...................... and it went on for so long that it appeared that our players weren't even affected or angry by that situation .......... it was a goodam cut-throat final FFS, where was the discipline, the fight & the will-to-win when the game was still there to be won.

60-0

60-0

60-0

And those guys get paid exorbitant amounts of money too !!

Some papers were stamped tonight, there will be causalities, or there should be.
It had already become a handicap event at team selection.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #56 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
The concern is too if we run with the same list we are probably going to be passed by a couple of other teams who will improve like Hawthorn have and we could be battling to make the eight.
Yep.

I fear we have missed our opportunity for a Cripps premiership 😔

Not all players can do all things - but for a start, clear out the injured players.
Enough.

And sorry but clear out players that cannot be trusted / I’m talking McG, Williams, Pittonent, even Cerra and maybe Acres.

Ye some of the best might win you a game. But consistently do not provide enough.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #57 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
He was made for Lachie Neale.....just another game we lost at the MC table.

EB do you really think our list is that good that we flip a 60-0 start by changing one or 2 selections. I wish i agreed but we have more issues then MC selections imo. We fans seem to think our problems would be solved by a smarter coach better selection's etc however maybe the list has more holes then we think. We don't have the overall talent to challenge the best teams when it matters.
We fail year in year out mate. We just aren't good enough for long enough.

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #58 –
Quote from: laj on
It had already become a handicap event at team selection.

I wholeheartedly agree with you but you cannot just play like a limp lettuce for near on a half and gift the opposition a 10-goal headstart, it was a ludicrous scenario all-round.
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #59 –
I fear Hawthorn have gone past us this year. We will know for certain whether they have had a blessed run, or they have genuinely jumped a level in the first half of 2025, but they look so much better than Carlton.