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Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #420 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Rumour has it that Kennedys partner may give birth shortly and he might be an out.

Haven’t they banned conjugal activity during the off and preseasons?

Good on Matt and congratulations to him and his partner!
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
 

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #421 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
As is my want and somewhat irritating to some, I look through a psychological lens at our changes for this game and ask myself one simple question... how confident in their bodies to go flat out for 120 minutes will Doc, Williams, Cerra, Fantasia and Gov be? And that is central to my questioning of these changes. We can reasonably assume that Cinc, Lord and Binns would be confident in their bodies to go hard for 120 minutes. But I get the romance of Doc and the idea of going into the game with your biggest names.

Once they run through the banner, any thoughts/worries about injury will be banished.  Thoughts about not being good enough, earning the displeasure of coaches, teammates and fans, letting their families down will persist though and will have the potential to derail the games of many players, and particularly those who aren’t established members of the team.

Hopefully, our trick cyclists will have worked on that.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #422 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
As is my want and somewhat irritating to some, I look through a psychological lens at our changes for this game and ask myself one simple question... how confident in their bodies to go flat out for 120 minutes will Doc, Williams, Cerra, Fantasia and Gov be? And that is central to my questioning of these changes. We can reasonably assume that Cinc, Lord and Binns would be confident in their bodies to go hard for 120 minutes. But I get the romance of Doc and the idea of going into the game with your biggest names.

I reckon Durdin is possibly the highest risk. His shoulder pops out when the breeze changes direction. Otherwise Cerra who is out of form and not fit.

Overall, i think we've gone 'safe' with selections.
Safe is a relative term, and i use it in terms of attempting to put our best side out there.....and hoping they hold up.

It would be much braver to leave out some of the 'regulars' and push the kids a bit more, but that would cop more backlash from the larger AFL world....including blues fans.

I've already mentioned, but i think we've gone too many underperforming small forwards and would mich rather sacrifice one or 2 of them for the unabashed enthusiasm of a kid or 2.
I thought Moir as sub would be perfect.
Lord i think is a little undersized, but taking the place of a small forward means we don't lose much.

If we are to win this game, i expect some breakout games from our small forwards to get us over the line.
That currently is our weakest point, and its the area that needs to lift the most.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #423 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
I reckon Durdin is possibly the highest risk. His shoulder pops out when the breeze changes direction. Otherwise Cerra who is out of form and not fit.

Overall, i think we've gone 'safe' with selections.
Safe is a relative term, and i use it in terms of attempting to put our best side out there.....and hoping they hold up.

It would be much braver to leave out some of the 'regulars' and push the kids a bit more, but that would cop more backlash from the larger AFL world....including blues fans.

I've already mentioned, but i think we've gone too many underperforming small forwards and would mich rather sacrifice one or 2 of them for the unabashed enthusiasm of a kid or 2.
I thought Moir as sub would be perfect.
Lord i think is a little undersized, but taking the place of a small forward means we don't lose much.

If we are to win this game, i expect some breakout games from our small forwards to get us over the line.
That currently is our weakest point, and its the area that needs to lift the most.
I echo the sentiment. 

I also don't see it happening.  Durdin should likely miss but he is the one small forward I see the most upside in if we can get that shoulder right.

Motlop is a cameo player always will be.  Needs a big 15 mins tonight. 

Using the Hawks template, if the kids are in form and doing what the coach asks they should play.  I think we shouldn't be treating finals differently to any other week.  You in form?  You get the nod.

The bulldogs last night lost because of the guys that didn't perform. Thing is it's difficult to predict who that's going to be.  I look at the stats sheet and its guys like mccrae, harmes, ugle-hagan that got well beaten and to a lesser extent weightman who did what small pressure forwards do when the ball doesn't get near them.

4 players whom you'd normally rely on to help you win probably are the difference.  When you start to look at the why behind it though, the story changes.  Match ups. 

Bontempelli was another well down on his output and arguably his worst showing of the year.  Sometimes that's the difference by itself but I bet London to a brick his opponent killed him.

I was on a plane so didn't watch this one but saw a bit waiting to board.  From what I could see hawthorn were able to manufacture repeat entries, and the bulldogs faffed about with handballs in the contest where the hawks were happy to get it in quick, kicking longer , hit grass (or a teamate) and then swarm the ground ball.  We do that and we'll be ok.  If we don't.....

It's also an important lesson.  Kicking to a contest where it's forward vs defender gives your opponent a chance to beat you.  Putting it on the deck makes it a contest about who gets near ut first and can knock it to the next bit of space.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #424 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
I reckon Durdin is possibly the highest risk. His shoulder pops out when the breeze changes direction. Otherwise Cerra who is out of form and not fit.

Overall, i think we've gone 'safe' with selections.
Safe is a relative term, and i use it in terms of attempting to put our best side out there.....and hoping they hold up.

It would be much braver to leave out some of the 'regulars' and push the kids a bit more, but that would cop more backlash from the larger AFL world....including blues fans.

I've already mentioned, but i think we've gone too many underperforming small forwards and would mich rather sacrifice one or 2 of them for the unabashed enthusiasm of a kid or 2.
I thought Moir as sub would be perfect.
Lord i think is a little undersized, but taking the place of a small forward means we don't lose much.

If we are to win this game, i expect some breakout games from our small forwards to get us over the line.
That currently is our weakest point, and its the area that needs to lift the most.

Yep, and woops, I forgot Durds.

You only have to look at the way the Dawks small forwards play to get an idea of what we needs from our small forwards... they each have to produce their best games for the year. The Dawks small forwards were quick, desperate and made really quick decisions. They carved up the Dishlickers' defence.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #425 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
I reckon Durdin is possibly the highest risk. His shoulder pops out when the breeze changes direction. Otherwise Cerra who is out of form and not fit.

Overall, i think we've gone 'safe' with selections.
Safe is a relative term, and i use it in terms of attempting to put our best side out there.....and hoping they hold up.

It would be much braver to leave out some of the 'regulars' and push the kids a bit more, but that would cop more backlash from the larger AFL world....including blues fans.

I've already mentioned, but i think we've gone too many underperforming small forwards and would mich rather sacrifice one or 2 of them for the unabashed enthusiasm of a kid or 2.
I thought Moir as sub would be perfect.
Lord i think is a little undersized, but taking the place of a small forward means we don't lose much.

If we are to win this game, i expect some breakout games from our small forwards to get us over the line.
That currently is our weakest point, and its the area that needs to lift the most.
If we are to win Cripps and Walsh have to have big games, we wont be stopping Brisbane with our leaky defense and have to limit their opportunities and increase ours as well as improve the quality. Make it a hard stoppage grinding game and make it an ugly game.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #426 –
Wish Fog was in the side, he's the pressure small we miss.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #427 –
TDK sub
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #428 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
TDK sub
Not sure that makes sense, it may be he's not as fit as the MC suggest, and if so that's a wrong selection, or maybe Pitto isn't as fit as MC indicate!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #430 –
Quote from: LP – on
Not sure that makes sense, it may be he's not as fit as the MC suggest, and if so that's a wrong selection!

I like it.

 3 quarter time we are up by 10 goals then he's not required.

Down by 2 goals and we need a hero, bring him on.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #431 –
Unless someone is going to get injured in the warm up and TDK starts and Cincotta sub.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #432 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
TDK sub
Yeah, we’re cooked here
We simply won’t score enough. Struggle to get above 50

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #433 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
TDK sub

Any hope we had of winning this match, just went out the window before the first bounce.

Only thing worse than playing 2 rucks when you have a full compliment of KPPs in the team
Is playing a ruck as a sub.....regardless of what you have on the ground at the time.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #434 –
Not sure I can work that out? If he's fit, he plays?

So, who's the tall forward option when Harry rucks for short periods?

It might've worked against WCE and Saints, but hard to see us manufacturing enough goals. And if Neale gets off the chain, we'll be scratching our heads and asking the question about why Cincotta wasn't in the team to try to tag him.