Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #270 – September 04, 2024, 03:37:24 pm Quote from: pew2 – on September 04, 2024, 03:28:24 pmi got a plan harry /charlie play as the dummies ,we go straight to kempI'm sure we can miss Kemp just as easily as we miss Harry or Charlie. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #271 – September 04, 2024, 04:18:18 pm Quote from: LP – on September 04, 2024, 03:37:24 pmI'm sure we can miss Kemp just as easily as we miss Harry or Charlie.Now come on, Spotted One... I think you missed the spirit of Pew2's joke... I got a giggle. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #272 – September 04, 2024, 04:40:57 pm Quote from: Baggers – on September 04, 2024, 04:18:18 pmNow come on, Spotted One... I think you missed the spirit of Pew2's joke... I got a giggle.There are many serious things, children, siblings, family, wealth, health and life, they all sit quietly just behind footy! Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #273 – September 04, 2024, 04:48:56 pm Just watched Clarkson previewing our game on YouTube. Nutshell: to win we'd have to sustain a high level of pressure. That is what would prevent Brisvegas playing their one wood... their high level of uncontested possession... keeping the aggott out of their opponents hands. 100% concur with this. We always look our most dangerous with relentless pressure... hunting.Like most pundits Clarkson is most concerned with the number of changes we might very well make. He agrees that Doc's inclusion will have a positive effect on team spirit... but... too many changes could very well be too disruptive to continuity. And we may well have the ability to make as many as 8 changes - just crazy (my word).So... If we settled on no more than 4 changes, who comes in and who goes out? Quote Selected
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #274 – September 04, 2024, 04:51:56 pm Quote from: Baggers – on September 04, 2024, 04:48:56 pmSo... If we settled on no more than 4 changes, who comes in and who goes out?If we lose, ........... Voss, Hansen, Hamill, Russell and probably Clarke. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #275 – September 04, 2024, 05:08:39 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on September 04, 2024, 10:46:20 amRight now, I have faith the MC will pick the side that will give us the best chance of winning and they will have reasons and data to back the selections (that we simply aren't privy to). Of course after the fact (ie hindsight) it wont stop us from professing to have known better. I have no faith in our MC. That went long ago. It was team selection that contributed to starting our slump picking half fit, out of form players. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #276 – September 04, 2024, 05:08:43 pm Is it crazy making 8 changes to a side that is out of form?Is it crazy making less than 8 changes if it mwans that you are leaving out more talented people as a result?The 'making changes' theory is all well and good, but there are an exception. Perhaps in this instance we can't win unless we make 8 changes. Who knows. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #277 – September 04, 2024, 05:11:19 pm Just one thing on Doc and people worried about his fitness.I'll play devils advocate for a second.Perhaps he is fitter than anyone else in the side at the moment because....1. He has done nothing but train and train and train to get ready for this moment.2. He isn't carrying any niggles like everyone else in the team.3. He is mentally fitter than anyone else on our list with what he's had to endure in and outside of footy.If we win this week, i'd argue that next week is the bigger issue with him. Getting up in back to back games when you are probably carrying a niggle into week 2 can see a big drop off in form/output.For this week, i'd back him in. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #278 – September 04, 2024, 05:37:40 pm Quote from: townsendcalling – on September 04, 2024, 03:11:21 pmHe has been called in to fulfill a specific role.......what that role is, is the $1m question!That's easy! Take a mark outside 50 in the dying minutes of the game, play on and bomb the ball to the square where Acres can mark and kick the winning goal Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #279 – September 04, 2024, 07:50:35 pm Quote from: Baggers – on September 04, 2024, 04:48:56 pmJust watched Clarkson previewing our game on YouTube. Nutshell: to win we'd have to sustain a high level of pressure. That is what would prevent Brisvegas playing their one wood... their high level of uncontested possession... keeping the aggott out of their opponents hands. 100% concur with this. We always look our most dangerous with relentless pressure... hunting.Like most pundits Clarkson is most concerned with the number of changes we might very well make. He agrees that Doc's inclusion will have a positive effect on team spirit... but... too many changes could very well be too disruptive to continuity. And we may well have the ability to make as many as 8 changes - just crazy (my word).So... If we settled on no more than 4 changes, who comes in and who goes out?Listen to Hoyne, Bris only win 40% of games when the oppo applies pressure greater than 180. Despite our slump, our pressure rating is very high (cant remember the numbers). Apply the pressure and this mob will wilt, nothing surer. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #280 – September 04, 2024, 07:54:54 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on September 04, 2024, 07:50:35 pmListen to Hoyne, Bris only win 40% of games when the oppo applies pressure greater than 180. Despite our slump, our pressure rating is very high (cant remember the numbers). Apply the pressure and this mob will wilt, nothing surer.Pressure rating has been good. Only fell away when we played Hawthorn but ran out of bodies on that one.Brisbane are a really good ball moving team and need to break even at least at clearances or they will cut as apart. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #281 – September 04, 2024, 08:42:35 pm Quote from: pinot – on September 04, 2024, 07:54:54 pmPressure rating has been good. Only fell away when we played Hawthorn but ran out of bodies on that one.Brisbane are a really good ball moving team and need to break even at least at clearances or they will cut as apart.Part of what Hoyne said:When you combine your pressure and the opposition's pressure, no one plays in higher pressure matches than what Carleton do this year. So you assume that holds you in good stead for a final series. So 180 is the AFL average for pressure.They've only done under 180 in a game this year three times. So three out of their 23 matches under 180, which is a significant achievement. Why this number is important. Brisbane have only received a pressure of over 180 on them ten times for the year.They've got a win rate of 40% when teams apply a pressure rating of over 180. So you would assume Carlton are going to do that this week, given that they have done it 20 out of 23 times this year. You do that, you give yourself the best chance of being in Brisbane.Pressure winsGeel 203NM, Rich 200WC 198PA 197Melb 194Rich 185Freo 184Bris GC 183Ess 181NM 179GWS 172Just Bring It Quote Selected
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #282 – September 04, 2024, 08:44:03 pm Docherty.So we know he ruptured his acl. We also know that he played a quarter with it already ruptured. He didn't go off right away remember?Where did it tear? Was hanging on by a thread? Fully torn right through the middle? Higher lower? Closer further from the knee? The medicos tend to describe a rupture as a full tear but they wouldn't have known until they operated and may have elected to keep that a bit quiet. So knowing this what's the recovery and rehab like? So if everything goes perfectly, with no post op complications, it is not unreasonable to have full motion back in the knee after 4 to 8 weeks and to be able to resume running in 12 to 16 weeks. That's about 4 months. Doch was playing his first game of the season off a full pre season and to quote him was in great condition when it happened. These days with prp, and stem cell therapy they can accelerate the healing process and using the skinny side of the above guidance its not unreasonable for him to have been back in strength and conditioning training by the end of July being conservative and allowing for 16 weeks. That means he's spent minimum 4 weeks getting miles in the legs and testing it out.Given our teams on field fortunes I'd trust him to be in better nick than almost 10 of the players going out this weekend. The timing of the injury is important. Jsos did his before pre season. Docherty after he had already done one. Was probably in really good nick when it happened and won't have the muscle issues the rest have. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #283 – September 04, 2024, 08:49:13 pm The four players certain to play on Saturday night against the Brisbane Lions are Harry McKay, Mitch McGovern, Zac Williams and Sam Docherty (whose stunning selection was announced on Tuesday), according to club sources who spoke anonymously as team selection was not official.But key forward Curnow, who aggravated an ankle injury against Hawthorn in round 22, is still in doubt for the elimination final, with the Blues facing a major call on his selection. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane Reply #284 – September 04, 2024, 09:06:20 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on September 04, 2024, 08:44:03 pmDocherty.So we know he ruptured his acl. We also know that he played a quarter with it already ruptured. He didn't go off right away remember?Where did it tear? Was hanging on by a thread? Fully torn right through the middle? Higher lower? Closer further from the knee? The medicos tend to describe a rupture as a full tear but they wouldn't have known until they operated and may have elected to keep that a bit quiet. So knowing this what's the recovery and rehab like? So if everything goes perfectly, with no post op complications, it is not unreasonable to have full motion back in the knee after 4 to 8 weeks and to be able to resume running in 12 to 16 weeks. That's about 4 months. Doch was playing his first game of the season off a full pre season and to quote him was in great condition when it happened. These days with prp, and stem cell therapy they can accelerate the healing process and using the skinny side of the above guidance its not unreasonable for him to have been back in strength and conditioning training by the end of July being conservative and allowing for 16 weeks. That means he's spent minimum 4 weeks getting miles in the legs and testing it out.Given our teams on field fortunes I'd trust him to be in better nick than almost 10 of the players going out this weekend. The timing of the injury is important. Jsos did his before pre season. Docherty after he had already done one. Was probably in really good nick when it happened and won't have the muscle issues the rest have. If anyone would know about rehab from a knee reco, it will be Doc. If he thinks he is ready to go, that's good enough for me. Quote Selected 1 Likes