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Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #150 –
I agree with Goin', McG comes across as a selfish footballer and I think it's time we moved on from his ilk.  Young is a trier at best, but he's done the job while McG has limped on and off getting stuff attended to.  Same as the kids, at least they had the cojones to front up when it all got a bit hard in the last couple of weeks.  Williams maybe, Martin...I thought we told that bloke to clean out his locker a month again.  Tyre kicker.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #151 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Doc is too inspirational and too good of a player in big moments not to play.
Probably the Scottish stubborness in him. But big moment players is what we need. Thats what will win games if its close.

Big ask for anyone off a reco 6 months ago, who has had 3 already, to turn up and play first up in a big final. The fact he has had 3 means he is suspect to them.  Not match fit, a big risk of another disaster happening given the short time frame and knee history. No, not for me.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #152 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I agree with all this but I dont think the club will be brave enough to keep Lord Binns and Moir. As for he ins, I am not convinced Gov can be trusted to a. come and not get re-injured and b. do a defensive job. What I have seen from him (when he as played) late this season is a selfish footballer who is very quick to berate team mates for his own pathetic defensives efforts. If he plays and Young doesn't, I fear their two big forwards will have their way with us. If they dont kick bags, they will bring their small fwds into the game.

Hope they are brave enough. Our slump started when they weren't brave enough and kept selecting out of form, half fit big names. We went from the best 4th qtr side by a mile to not being able to run more than a qtr. A qtr of utter brilliance most of those weeks, then we were dead after it. If we were braver in selection we'd be top 4.

We shall see what happens but you being right in this instance will not surprise at all.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #153 –
I'd rather have Moir in than Martin....it's make or break. If we managed to win, then maybe Martin for the next game but he's broken down twice this year after coming back from injuries. Moir to me looks like a freakish sort who might be low possession but high impact for now (a bit like Martin). Motlop is probably saved by the fact that Owies is out.

As for Doc, hard to know but the team lifting impact could be huge....a handy sub option.

And as much as Young has copped flak, I think we need him down back against one of Hipwood or Daniher.

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Reply #154 –
We'll find out how broken our blokes are when they have their post season operations.

Charlie needs one.

Harry not so much.

Docherty is the one I'm least concerned about.  Wrecked his knee at the end of pre season and will only get picked if he can change direction.  Match fitness is a concern but let's face it, if they're equal, 4 quarters out of docherty probably surpasses guys like moir, durdin, motlop, Martin or anyone else who's hurt a hamstring recently.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #155 –
My team would be something like this....

FB - Cowan - Weitering - Newman
HB - Saad - Young - McGovern
C - Acres - Cripps - O.Hollands
HF - Kemp - McKay - Williams
FF - Motlop - Curnow - E. Hollands
R - Pittonet - Hewett - Walsh
Int - Kennedy - Docherty - Boyd - Cincotta
Sub - Moir

EMG - Carroll - Binns - Lord

Not available, didn't get up from injuries....
TDK, Martin, Cerra, Fogarty, C.Durdin, Cottrell, Owies, Cuningham

Reasoning...
2 talls + 3rd tall (back and forward).
Get our backup ruck from them.
Charlie, Harry and McGovern all have injury clouds, so Kemp starting forward as 3rd tall is the coverage we need for them.
I suspect we will most likely get 1 injury in that area, or end up subbing one of them off if we manage to not get any injuries.
Young hopefully holding down KPD as its crucial for our structure.
Moir coming on as the sub to cause chaos and give us a lift.

Docherty comes in. Even on one leg he is better than Lord, Binns, Carroll etc. Nothing against them, but Doc is a step above.

Motlop/Williams as the small forwards as simply they are the most likely to kick a goal, which ultimately, is what we need.

I believe with that side we have enough talls, and can cover an injury there.
Our midfield is strong enough to compete with the best.
Our defence has some extra help on the bench (Boyd, Cincotta, Docherty)

If TDK is fit, you swap with Pittonet (do NOT play both)
If Martin is fit, you swap with Motlop.
If Cerra is fit, then i call BS. Do not play him.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #156 –
I didn't think Boyd was available?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #158 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
I was at the training session, and Charlie was going about 20% throttle at best.  Can't help thinking (given where Charlie grabbed his ankle when he got injured against Hawthorn) that he has a syndesmosis issue and they do not go away quickly.  Cannot afford to play him if he is still struggling. 
Interesting also that Owies took no part in the session - stayed inside with the Rehab boys.

Charlie will always demand the opposition key backman and could keep Harris Andrews occupied as a decoy or spoiler.  A McKay / Kemp forward set up would not set the fear of God into the Lions.

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Reply #159 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Charlie will always demand the opposition key backman and could keep Harris Andrews occupied as a decoy or spoiler.  A McKay / Kemp forward set up would not set the fear of God into the Lions.
Payne is meant to be back this game and I'd see him taking Charlie and the bigger Andrews will get Harry.

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Reply #160 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
We'll find out how broken our blokes are when they have their post season operations.

I'm guessing it might be more significant than we've been led to believe.
Acres (shoulder) Walsh (back) for starters.
Weitering??? (might not require surgery, but a few corkies may have left him a bit battered and bruised)

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #161 –
I'll back Doc and will be a massive lift for the boys.
Charlie and H will be massive ins.
We'll smash Bris by hunting them and applying a massive amount of pressure. They will fold.
BTW, the new darlings of the comp will get a football lesson from the Dogs on Friday night.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #162 –
Agree 100% on the comment on C & H playing too deep, and leave Kemp down forward to mix things up.

IMHO Ithink Moir is something special. Play him. He is still under the radar / underestimated and therefore not respected yet. No better time to announce himself and do some damage.
 

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Reply #163 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
My team would be something like this....

FB - Cowan - Weitering - Newman
HB - Saad - Young - McGovern
C - Acres - Cripps - O.Hollands
HF - Kemp - McKay - Williams
FF - Motlop - Curnow - E. Hollands
R - Pittonet - Hewett - Walsh
Int - Kennedy - Docherty - Boyd - Cincotta
Sub - Moir


Hard to see Boyd getting up with an adductor injury. Cooper Lord for Boyd... especially hearing how Vossy and Crippa talked him up and how he has fit in so well.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #164 –
Our goal should still be to win the premiership. There is no point playing Charlie this week if the ankle is still bothering him. If we win he still has to back it up the following week and then another 2 matches after that.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!