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Reply #225 –
Quote from: kruddler on
I remember the GP, i remember Martin Brundle at the time saying that is a VERY UNUSUAL place for someone to crash and it doesn't make sense. He called it live.
He did, as I said, I think financial compo is the most likely outcome, simply because blokes have since confessed and a top official appears to have disclosed that they knew but did not act at the time.

I don't think Massa gets a championship, but I think he is a big chance at getting dollars such is the system.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

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Reply #226 –
What a brilliantly run event the Aus GP is every year, seems to get better. I think anyone would enjoy a day there. I would highly recommend anyone who hasn't seen a race meeting live, spend the Sat there, 2 F1 sessions (practice and qualifying), an F2 sprint race, and F3 sprint race, V8 Supercars, plenty of food, drinks, stuff for the kiddies. Great value for money, well  to all concerned.
PS if your going GA for a few days, spend the Friday finding your fave spot, get the super early Sat and Sun to get that spot and sent up "camp" with your mates/family.

PSS My fave spots are inside of that track at turn 6 and inside of the track at exit of turn 2.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #227 –
Agree.

Taken my (now) 9yo son the last couple years and he could spend the day there without ever looking at the track. Was talking to a chick from Canada who has been to the montreal Grand Prix a few times and she has said the Aussie event is so much better because there is nothing else to do at 'her' event.

Know people who have been to Silverstone. Same thing.
I was at the first Autin Grand Prix, basically the same thing.

I've been to probably 15 Melbourne Grand Prix weekends (usually on Saturdays) and its always quality.

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Reply #228 –
It's amazing how petulant these F1 driver types can be, last night we saw a number of them spitting the dummy.

It was an infantile demonstration of privileged ultra-rich sportspeople expecting to always be front of the queue no matter who has to make sacrifices to put them in the box seat.

Most of them aren't anywhere near as good as they claim to be, and the moment events look like exposing that they start blaming everybody else!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

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Reply #229 –
Quote from: LP on
It's amazing how petulant these F1 driver types can be, last night we saw a number of them spitting the dummy.

It was an infantile demonstration of privileged ultra-rich sportspeople expecting to always be front of the queue no matter who has to make sacrifices to put them in the box seat.

Most of them aren't anywhere near as good as they claim to be, and the moment events look like exposing that they start blaming everybody else!

I agree that Nando's response to having to give the spot back was selfish but also like how bad some of them behave when things go against them it definitely adds theatre to what at times can be boring robot viewing. Don't agree they are not as good as they claim to be - these drivers are the very best of their profession and just have to watch these guys race in heavy rain and you quickly see they freaks and have balls like cantaloupe. 

Max was in a foul mood and just cant handle any situation where he has real competition. But again i find it entertaining as the drivers are who they are - they are winners and cant accept anything but to finish on the highest podium.

Oscar is a gem and could end up being the best F1 driver we have had for decades.    

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Reply #230 –
Quote from: shawny on

Max was in a foul mood and just cant handle any situation where he has real competition. But again i find it entertaining as the drivers are who they are - they are winners and cant accept anything but to finish on the highest podium.
 

Bloody talented driver but also an arrogant, entitled pr@#k

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Reply #231 –
Quote from: RiverRat on
Bloody talented driver but also an arrogant, entitled pr@#k
I didn't hear it but I believe Horner told Max on the radio to pull his head in, called his behaviour childish, is that true?

I remember Vettel going through a similar stage, behaving "like Max" and also doing "a Norris" to Mark Webber. After Seb grew out of that he became a much better driver, I suspect Max will do the same.

I use to label Vettel as "Seb the Breaker", because he basically drove the car into the ground indifferent to team or engineering requests, much like Max did last night. No matter how good you are as a pilot, you can't fly your plane through a brick wall!

Not sure Max is aided by his father's behaviour, his old many tends to be as churlish as Max.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
 

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Reply #232 –
Quote from: LP on
I didn't hear it but I believe Horner told Max on the radio to pull his head in, called his behaviour childish, is that true?

His race engineer not Horner I believe.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #233 –
Quote from: LP on
I didn't hear it but I believe Horner told Max on the radio to pull his head in, called his behaviour childish, is that true?

I remember Vettel going through a similar stage, behaving "like Max" and also doing "a Norris" to Mark Webber. After Seb grew out of that he became a much better driver, I suspect Max will do the same.

I use to label Vettel as "Seb the Breaker", because he basically drove the car into the ground indifferent to team or engineering requests, much like Max did last night. No matter how good you are as a pilot, you can't fly your plane through a brick wall!

Not sure Max is aided by his father's behaviour, his old many tends to be as churlish as Max.
Disagree on Seb, maybe very early on in his career. Overall I always thought he was very gentle on the car, one of the few drivers who actually "understands" the engineering of a race car. Majority (even Max) are steering wheel attendants.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #234 –
Quote from: shawny on
I agree that Nando's response to having to give the spot back was selfish but also like how bad some of them behave when things go against them it definitely adds theatre to what at times can be boring robot viewing. Don't agree they are not as good as they claim to be - these drivers are the very best of their profession and just have to watch these guys race in heavy rain and you quickly see they freaks and have balls like cantaloupe. 

I assume you mean Lando. I think he quickly got the message when his race engineer told him you need a team and team mates to win champions. Oscar has done plenty for Lando to date, it was time to make a withdrawal.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #235 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
I assume you mean Lando. I think he quickly got the message when his race engineer told him you need a team and team mates to win champions.
The word you are looking for is "Churlish"! ;D

As an aside, wasn't Nando Calrissian the famous "Space Judas" from Star Wars, stabbed Han Solo in the back, or maybe he was the famous peri peri chicken entrepreneur? :o
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

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Reply #236 –
Quote from: RiverRat on
Bloody talented driver but also an arrogant, entitled pr@#k

Not many world champions in that sport that don't fit the above description.

Schumacher for one.
Vettel at his peak was.
Hamilton certainly was early on. He got sick of booing and started sucking up everyones butt and has turned that image around somewhat.
Do you want to go back to blokes like Hunt
Even Prost, Senna, Lauda, Mansell all exuded arrogance and got called pricks on more than one occasion.

In formula 1, perhaps like no other sport, you need so much going right for you in terms of sponsorship, simply to get close to F1 level. If you are not arrogant, you don't get close.

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Reply #237 –
re Seb and his 'refusal' to give the place back to Webber "Multi 21 Seb!"

They touched on it during the race (or in the recap afterwards) that Sebs refusal actually endeared himself to the team.
"This one has what it takes!"
In the world of F1, nice guys finish last.

You need plenty of c**t about you.

You reckon if Norris falls with 7 points of the world championship he won't be reminding everyone of how he gave away 7 points for the team in Hungary.

Truth be told though, if it was any other team, they wouldn't have been so insistent on handing back that place.
McLaren, going back to the Hakkinen/Coulthard glory years were always 'equals' in the car when everyone else had team orders.
Schumacher got many a point from Barrichello rolling over when told too.
Hamiton got the same from Bottas when required.

Stick a pin in this one and revisit it at the end of the season.

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Reply #238 –
McLaren have a great platform for tyre management, they had a distinct advantage but even in last night's race RB, Mercedes and Ferrari all had superior ultimate pace but lost the tyres too quickly.

Max was crying Wolf, and he was stupid doing what he did, he should cop a penalty next start, but over the next couple of months he gets to race on tracks almost engineered to suit his RB20.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

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Reply #239 –
Quote from: LP on
McLaren have a great platform for tyre management, they had a distinct advantage but even in last night's race RB, Mercedes and Ferrari all had superior ultimate pace but lost the tyres too quickly.
Superior ultimate pace ??

So....like qualifying where McLaren were also 1+2 ?

F1 is a marathon not a sprint.
Tyre management is part of the game.
A team and its 'pace' cannot be separated without taking tyre management into account in some manner.

McLaren are clearly the best car at the moment.
Verstappen is the best driver.
Sometimes the driver can outdo the car.
Last night, it couldn't.