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Just a personal opinion with no real figures to back it up but....

I don't know whether there are any figures for "gun ownership by profession in the USA" floating around but I would hazard a guess that "teachers" would figure at the lower end of any such chart.

In terms of gun control advocates they would probably figure prominently and most would vote or favour Democrat candidates.

They wouldn't want guns.

Just a personal opinion with no real figures to back it up but....

I don't know whether there are any figures for "gun ownership by profession in the USA" floating around but I would hazard a guess that "teachers" would figure at the lower end of any such chart.

In terms of gun control advocates they would probably figure prominently and most would vote or favour Democrat candidates.

They wouldn't want guns.

In too many ways, America is as extreme and fundamentalist as the countries they claim as their enemies.

So spot on, Durante Koala. I recall when I visited the US some time ago that I was in a country of extremes. The best and worst of human nature was on show. The fundamentalism/fanaticism/patriotism is right up there with any other such nation. Yet friends over there and friends of friends offered me every generosity you could imagine.

I recall a Yank friend (who is on the international talk 'circuit') informing me, when I pointed out this paradox, that the US was settled by religious zealots and much of that fundamentalist extremism still remains - as evidenced, in just one example, by their deep reverence for authority - do and believe whatever 'the man' tells you. He also pointed out that Aust was settled, predominantly, by convicts (minor offenders in the main) hence our deep suspicion of authority! I might point out that of all the countries in the world he visits, we're his favourite by a long shot.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/865936.Deer_Hunting_with_Jesus

Baggers have a read of this if you have the time and inclination. A confronting study and account of some aspects of life in the declining American Empire. Quite confronting in parts.

People will start arming themselves here with all the crime we have had in the last couple of years.

Really???

Are they going to buy them legitimately on the black-market, because it's not so easy to be a licensed shooter anymore?

Legitimately you have to have gun safes separating firing mechanisms and ammunition from the barrel. You also have to submit to regular inspections from the police, not that I've heard anyone getting inspected but once you have weapons on-site they are permitted to do so.

Illegitimately I've heard that the typical black-market price of a gun started beyond $50k, and you basically have to unambiguously identify yourself to very undesirable types who trade in such weapons! That's a very high price to pay, and I've also some of those recent home invasions are to get hold of weapons(legit or illegal) for use in crime!

So getting rid of guns might discourage some of those home invasions, and if they are robbers it would be cheaper just to get robbed!

Not quite right LP; ammunition must be stored separately but there is no requirement to render firearms inoperable.  Inspections are conducted regularly and there is no discretion if the security requirements aren't followed; the shooter's licence is cancelled and firearms confiscated on the spot. 

As for people arming themselves, there's never been a safer time to live in Victoria and, as my defence tactics instructor was fond of saying, if you arm yourself, it's likely that the baddies will take your weapon and use it against you.

Not quite right LP; ammunition must be stored separately but there is no requirement to render firearms inoperable.  Inspections are conducted regularly and there is no discretion if the security requirements aren't followed; the shooter's licence is cancelled and firearms confiscated on the spot. 

As for people arming themselves, there's never been a safer time to live in Victoria and, as my defence tactics instructor was fond of saying, if you arm yourself, it's likely that the baddies will take your weapon and use it against you.