Skip to main content ↑ ↓
Topic: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood (Read 4176 times) previous topic - next topic
Baggers, Professer E, kruddler, pertz and 24 Guests are viewing this topic.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #75 –
We were just smothered by the Pies last night. Just could not break their shackles. Just didn’t show enough class and the will was progressively squeezed out of us. There is such a gap between our top senior few players and the rest and our team composure was shot to pieces. I’m surprised the margin was not much bigger. Too many mistakes, too little class and composure leading to the nullification of even some of our best and most experienced players. Simply we are presently well below the critical mass of talent required for success at the moment. Very challenging times ahead.
Reality always wins in the end.
 

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #76 –
when the opposition starts to RUN and SPREAD our slow players cannot match or rise to this level , so thks to sos and now Austin we are in the same position as all the other years and it vey disappointing and sad . I don't care about Coleman medalist or any other medal , i care about a successful game plan / system  and we haven't got one for the last 2 yrs.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #79 –
Pretty much covered by everyone so nothing really to add. I do think that those critical of Ollie need to re-watch the game. Thought he was one of the few that gave it all for 4 quarters, AND he kicked 2 goals. A 3rd of our goals. George also kicked another 3rd (as I have suggested previously I believe Kennedy's departure is the catalyst for this) and was once again one of our best.
Positives
Thought Walsh was a lot better and easily his best for the year.
Saad had a good one too. One of the few who knew how to play the wet weather.
I'm hoping the "brains trust" thought Lord did enough to retain his spot.
Busted their nuts : TDK, Cripps, Jack, Weiters
Honest: Cerra, White, Williams
Negatives
Everything everyone else has said.
Doc and Acres getting plenty of the ball but having zero impact and taking the wrong options.
I'm 65 this year and I have serious doubts I'll ever see another flag.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #80 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Where is Cincotta?


3-5 weeks away. Hip.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #81 –
Nice post rocky. Agree with all those assessments and Hewett is the most underrated player on our list IMO.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #82 –
Maybe the players are sending a message.
Why did we get rid of Kennedy & Owies and bring in Haynes & Evans???
Coincidently we have 2 players suffering from mental health issues and apparently 1 other not named???
Something is up.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #83 –
Quote from: rocky – on
Pretty much covered by everyone so nothing really to add. I do think that those critical of Ollie need to re-watch the game. Thought he was one of the few that gave it all for 4 quarters, AND he kicked 2 goals. A 3rd of our goals. George also kicked another 3rd (as I have suggested previously I believe Kennedy's departure is the catalyst for this) and was once again one of our best.
Positives
Thought Walsh was a lot better and easily his best for the year.
Saad had a good one too. One of the few who knew how to play the wet weather.
I'm hoping the "brains trust" thought Lord did enough to retain his spot.
Busted their nuts : TDK, Cripps, Jack, Weiters
Honest: Cerra, White, Williams
Negatives
Everything everyone else has said.
Doc and Acres getting plenty of the ball but having zero impact and taking the wrong options.
I'm 65 this year and I have serious doubts I'll ever see another flag.

Totally agree.

But, holy mackerel there are some panic buttons being pushed (not you)... the roof of PP hasn't caved in and it's not round 22 and we're sitting on the bottom.

However, there are alarm bells and red flags, but the season is NOT lost. And many of us hope... nup, demand from our club DO NOT repeat the sins of the past and go hunting for a scapegoat, especially NOT the senior coach (no, I don't know Vossy and am not a buddy of anyone at the club).

By all means put the focus on the footy department. Time for those at Board level/CEO to put a relentless lens of focus on the footy department and entire coaching group. There ARE problems that are weakening our unity and collective goals. We likely only need to tweak and perhaps make a couple of personnel changes... but we must find the weak link(s) and non-hackers. There might be a few on field, but I bet with great confidence that there are a few in the footy department.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #84 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Nice post rocky. Agree with all those assessments and Hewett is the most underrated player on our list IMO.

Aint that the truth! Hewett is a ripper and a bona fide on field leader. Not underrated by this little black duck.

As for who might be overrated... now there's an important subject worth a squiz.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #85 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I would suggest that our issues are meta and go well beyond personnel. We have turned over more than any other club in the last 20 odd years, and no group of individuals has made much of a dent, although some have been more successful than others. The club as an abstract entity seems to be in a kind of paralysis or fug, and IMO no amount of personnel change will help. The land is barren, and no amount of hole digging, changing the shape of the hole, using different implements to dig etc., will change that. There's something fundamental about "being Carlton" that needs to change.

100%, Pauly. Just exactly what is our identity? Fckd if I know.

I know our social responsibility section is exemplary. Our community engagement with important issues is to be applauded.

But our on field brand? Cynically... inconsistency. Hey, we do inconsistency with aplomb.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #86 –
Hoping Mr Cook is all over it. We have to back him in. interesting to hear him on 3AW last night. Absolutely no panic, we will bounce back. Wright is working with Cook 3 days a week. Surely
between the two of them they can spot the obvious.

Have faith. I turn 65 tomorrow and was hoping for a great present last night.
Guess I'll just have to watch the 95 Grand Final again......

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #87 –
Quote from: Slowhand – on
Hoping Mr Cook is all over it. We have to back him in. interesting to hear him on 3AW last night. Absolutely no panic, we will bounce back. Wright is working with Cook 3 days a week. Surely
between the two of them they can spot the obvious.

Have faith. I turn 65 tomorrow and was hoping for a great present last night.
Guess I'll just have to watch the 95 Grand Final again......

Happy birthday for tomorrow, SH... enjoy a nice red, or three. Maybe watch the Magoos tomorrow night and see some bright lights for our future.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #88 –
Thanks Baggers. You read my mind....

Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #89 –
Its amazing, we have swung strategy wildly like a drunkard in a bar fight, and here we are wondering why we don't show a semblance of a team that plays with consistency.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson