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Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #225 –
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Doc says he’s training to play on the wing or as an inside midfielder, but may also play as a half forward/midfielder and half back.

I guess that there aren’t many other options 🙂
Media keep telling us our D50 is poo, yet there is no D50 spot for Doc.

Just saying folks!

Docherty couldn't defend like he used to after his 2 knees let alone the cancer. It's why he was moved out of the backline.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #226 –
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Docherty couldn't defend like he used to after his 2 knees let alone the cancer. It's why he was moved out of the backline.
I don't believe that is true and I'm not sure where that idea comes from.

I suspect Doc is moved out of D50 because the other players don't have his utility in other positions of the ground like the midfield.
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Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #227 –
Quote from: LP – on
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Docherty couldn't defend like he used to after his 2 knees let alone the cancer. It's why he was moved out of the backline.
I don't believe that is true and I'm not sure where that idea comes from.

I suspect Doc is moved out of D50 because the other players don't have his utility in other positions of the ground like the midfield.

I’m not sure that Doc was ever a true defender LP.  His best years in defence were as a loose man before the 6-6-6 rule came in, but he was still a valuable member of the backline.  Apart from losing the loose man role, I can’t see much difference between the way he played before the knee and cancer and his 2023.  His work in the match sims suggests that the 2025 version will be much the same.

His skill set does make him more versatile than his former colleagues in defence.  While he may add something to the wing/midfield/half forwards, I don’t think that we lose anything by moving him out of defence … apart from experience and leadership, but that’s not lacking among our defenders anyway.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #228 –
Quote from: LP – on
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Docherty couldn't defend like he used to after his 2 knees let alone the cancer. It's why he was moved out of the backline.
I don't believe that is true and I'm not sure where that idea comes from.

I suspect Doc is moved out of D50 because the other players don't have his utility in other positions of the ground like the midfield.


He was the best HBF in the comp, did 2 knees and struggled when he came back.
Fought cancer then came back as midfielder. Credit to him.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #229 –
We need a year of the experinced veterans play good solid football the 29-33 y.o bracket - Doc, Gov, Haynes, Fantasia Saad, Williams, Cripps, Acres and Hewett. We are going to go a long way if these blokes stay on the park all year.

Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #230 –
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Media keep telling us our D50 is poo, yet there is no D50 spot for Doc.

Just saying folks!

Docherty couldn't defend like he used to after his 2 knees let alone the cancer. It's why he was moved out of the backline.
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You keep on pushing that barrow 👍🏼
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Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #231 –
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Docherty couldn't defend like he used to after his 2 knees let alone the cancer. It's why he was moved out of the backline.
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You keep on pushing that barrow 👍🏼

How's your Facebook page going?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #232 –
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🤣
You keep on pushing that barrow 👍🏼

How's your Facebook page going?


That’s probably a question best saved for when you and me as a couple of the younger members here, are the only ones left here mate.
You’re welcome to join, post, share and like… you know, all those things that grow the reach of fb groups 🤷🏼‍♂️
You’re also welcome (as is anyone else) to have admin rights, it’s not my page, it’s for this group to try and reach a younger, broader audience.
20 yrs ago when it seemed the site needed money for domain hosting, I and a couple of others produced some CSC branded clothing, I’ve still got and wear mine, how have yours lasted ?

What have you ever done to help the forum grow ?

Let’s go BIG !

Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #233 –
I went to the open training at the weekend.

I must say, I thought Ollie Hollands off half-back looked very impressive.  He could become the line-breaking defender we need badly.

The other stand-out was Jesse Motlop.  I think we should expect some big things from him this year.

And Jagga Smith is a lock for Round 1.  Very reminiscent of Nick Daicos.....
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Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #234 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
I went to the open training at the weekend.

I must say, I thought Ollie Hollands off half-back looked very impressive.  He could become the line-breaking defender we need badly.

The other stand-out was Jesse Motlop.  I think we should expect some big things from him this year.

And Jagga Smith is a lock for Round 1.  Very reminiscent of Nick Daicos.....

Your observations match those of many pundits  :)  

One thing I like about Smith is his ability to get into positions where he can impact the play ... and his teammates seem to expect him to end up with the pill. 
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!
 

Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #235 –
The Age "experts" have put together predicted line-ups for the first game.  Ours is:

B: L Cowan, J Weitering, N Haynes
HB: A Saad, M McGovern, J Silvagni
C: B Acres, P Cripps, S Docherty
HF: L Fogarty, C Curnow, E Hollands
F: J Motlop, H McKay, Z Wolliams
Foll: T De Koning, S Walsh, A Cerra
Inter: O Hollands, G Hewett, J Smith, M Cottrell, A Moir
Emerg: J Boyd, B Kemp, M Pittonet
New: Jagga Smith, Nick Haynes
Unavailable: Nic Newman (knee), Alex Cincotta (hip)
Jacob Weitering, Nick Haynes, Mitch McGovern and Jack Silvagni are versatile enough to play in the same back line. Tom De Koning needs Marc Pittonet, but not every week. Lachie Fogarty, Matt Cottrell and Ashton Moir get first crack forward. Lock in Jagga Smith for an immediate debut. We’ve assumed Charlie Curnow, Sam Walsh and Silvagni will all be ready.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/match-committee-how-your-team-could-line-up-for-game-one-20250213-p5lbwd.html

I think that's pretty close to the mark and the Tom De Koning - Mark Pittonet comment is spot on.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #236 –
Quote from: DJC – on
The Age "experts" have put together predicted line-ups for the first game.  Ours is:

B: L Cowan, J Weitering, N Haynes
HB: A Saad, M McGovern, J Silvagni
C: B Acres, P Cripps, S Docherty
HF: L Fogarty, C Curnow, E Hollands
F: J Motlop, H McKay, Z Wolliams
Foll: T De Koning, S Walsh, A Cerra
Inter: O Hollands, G Hewett, J Smith, M Cottrell, A Moir
Emerg: J Boyd, B Kemp, M Pittonet
New: Jagga Smith, Nick Haynes
Unavailable: Nic Newman (knee), Alex Cincotta (hip)
Jacob Weitering, Nick Haynes, Mitch McGovern and Jack Silvagni are versatile enough to play in the same back line. Tom De Koning needs Marc Pittonet, but not every week. Lachie Fogarty, Matt Cottrell and Ashton Moir get first crack forward. Lock in Jagga Smith for an immediate debut. We’ve assumed Charlie Curnow, Sam Walsh and Silvagni will all be ready.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/match-committee-how-your-team-could-line-up-for-game-one-20250213-p5lbwd.html

I think that's pretty close to the mark and the Tom De Koning - Mark Pittonet comment is spot on.

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Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #237 –
De Koning and Pitto rucked in tandem in the latest match sim.  Tom dominated and Pitto was serviceable.

And Skull had a tough workout 🙂
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #238 –
One thing that Vossy mentioned in his season preview was that moving Ollie Hollands into defence was partly to create an opportunity for Binnsy to get games.  I'm not sure whether he's done enough to take advantage of that opportunity but his work in the upcoming practice match should give a clearer picture.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: How will we line up in 2025.

Reply #239 –
Quote from: DJC – on
One thing that Vossy mentioned in his season preview was that moving Ollie Hollands into defence was partly to create an opportunity for Binnsy to get games.  I'm not sure whether he's done enough to take advantage of that opportunity but his work in the upcoming practice match should give a clearer picture.
I thought OH wasn't too bad when pushed into the D50 last season, lacked strength but that's typical for early career types.

It will be interesting to see how this pecking order pans out, I suspect we(The Club) think a few of these young blokes are about to surpass what Owies was capable of, so let see if our MC is on the money.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"