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Regarding O'Farrell :

With pick No. 40, the Blues selected Harry O'Farrell, a promising 197cm key defender from Calder Cannons. Austin emphasised O'Farrell's raw potential, noting his balance of defensive capabilities and offensive instincts.

“It has been a positional need... one that can come in and develop,” Austin explained.

“Like all the draftees, they're not in a hurry to play; they'll play when they're ready. Harry's got some size to put on, but he's certainly got a lot of talent.”

Austin admitted in one interview I heard that   key defenders were a critical list need (words to that effect), so the club is is clearly aware of the issue.
Not surprised Ollie is being trialled behind the ball, spends a lot of time back there anyway helping out, don't know if he is strong enough against the small marking types like Cameron, Greene etc.  That's Newman's job.

Quote from: pinot – on November 29, 2024, 05:57:51 pm

Looks like Lemmey is filling out nicely - big boys take time till they get used to their big fame and how to use it. Will be interesting if it clicks for him and slowly goes into beast mode this year. 21 end of January so still a baby for a tall developing bloke but will be an intriguing watch.

Did you miss my post about Lemmey explaining that his off-season program enabled him to become leaner and, hopefully, faster and more agile?

Quote from: pinot – on November 24, 2024, 09:00:44 pm

I know they are happy to persist with him. But they better change that tune pretty fast if they want to keep their jobs.

I may be going out on a limb here but, just as I prefer Nick Austin’s list management decisions over the alternatives proposed by Kruddler, I have a hell of a lot more faith in the MC’s approach to team selection than I have in your prognostications.

Call me old-fashioned if you like but, when what I see gels with the widely-held assessment of Ollie as one of the best two way runners in the game, and the MC’s confidence in him, I tend to think that he’s more than worthy of his spot in the team and he has got a great future as a winger over the next decade.

Quote from: pinot – on November 24, 2024, 06:37:39 pm

He loses most aerial and groundball battles - if you think O Hollands is in the mould of Kouta + Hanna that never lost their battles then we are on a different tangent. O Hollands doesnt get enough of the ball to hurt the oppo with his body type. If you cant get much of the ball then you need players that can win most of their battles and Ollie is never going to get there - his body type is more similar to Saad give him a go there he is a liability on the wing.

Did you watch the video before you made that absurd statement about Ollie losing contests?

Of course Ollie’s nothing like Kouta but he’s getting pretty close to the likes of Quirk, Crane, Glascott, Robertson, Hanna and Camporeale.

Ollie’s body type is nothing like Saad’s; he is taller, lighter and doesn’t have Saad’s strength, or the footy nous that Saad has accrued over 195 games.  For a bloke that’s about to begin his third season, Ollie isn’t that far behind.

Ollie did play off halfback this season and did OK but his decision-making and creativity is better suited to the wing; think Weitering to Hollands to Docherty to Acres and goal!

The MC is more than happy to persist with Ollie on a wing and there’s no way that they will ever use Saad other than as a small defender.

Perhaps we should have a pick your fantasy team thread 🤣

Are we really looking at ollie hollands...  he's in his third season and turns 21 in January.

Talk about pouring the acid on someone.  He's barely missed a beat and if there is a knock on him it's his consistency in game.  Usually has a good half then fades.

Quote from: pinot – on November 24, 2024, 05:39:44 pm

IMO Ollie Hollands needs to be removed from the wing as he loses almost all of his 1 v 1 battles.

Wing is too important... Acres + Cotts + Doc is enough. Ollie needs to be retrained and mould Saad as a ground ball get and intercept player.

I'm not sure how you formed that view but it certainly doesn't gel with what you see here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ntE9x0-5Vo

Yes, it is a highlights package but it tallies with my observations that Ollie wins or halves most one on one contests, forces lots of turnovers, gets way more of his share of spoils and creates plenty of opportunities for his teammates with his ball use.

I'm not sure what a "ground ball get and intercept player" does but Saad is preparing for his eleventh season and 200th game and I don't think that you could "mould" him into anything other than what you get now ... and why would you want to change that?