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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Talking Tactics - Our Forward Structure In 2017
Quote from: flyboy77 on
I see the point very clearly.

It's a reset.

We ditch Gibbs and Thomas, buy two or three emerging mids (with a few runs on the board), heck even a gun with the money that will be freed up!

I still believe Gibbs chooses when to turn up, that's a bad example!

And his lazy round the corner kicking is more and more on display this year. Causes cheap turnovers every time.

Couldn't agree more Fly!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2017 Rd 7: pre game protestations Carlton vs Collingwood
If young Jack SOS is out, I'd trump for Liam Jones. He is in some sort of red hot form. His marking and physicality has gone through the roof. get him in when in such good form. This would be his best chance to have a decent AFL game IMO. At 198cm or so, he is incredibly quick, agile and versatile, so I think even though he's a big unit, it's not like we'd be bringing in a lumbering type.

Think the headache for the Pies of Casboult, Weitering, Charlie Curnow and Jones up forward would be welcome. Jones can have a run onball/ruck or back if need be also.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2017 Round 6: Pre game premonitions: Carlton vs Sydney
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Sorry but I'm not a fan of the notion of playing blokes like Weitering, Marchbank, Plowman, Rowe etc fwd. They are defenders, darn good ones to boot. They must IMO play back as a unit and grow stronger together with every game. They will develop a 6th sense playing together, this is what makes gun back lines. People talk about playing kids and destroying their confidence with beltings, personally I reckon throwing them around fwd and back all around the place is worse. The fwd line problem is a different kettle of fish and needs addressed separately. That is, when Harry is ready, he will come in and be given a go. When Kerr is ready, he will come in and be given a go. We can play small fwd lines rotating mids and HFs. We will target a gun fwd in this years draft, trading period. It takes time and we need to be patient. Robbing Peter to pay Paul is nonsense IMO.

No need to be sorry. I completely disagree. I'd rather BB stay open minded with his players, positions, options, rather than have a closed minded view. Each to their own.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2017 Round 6: Pre game premonitions: Carlton vs Sydney
No doubt young tyros Cunningham, McKay and now Polson and Pickett, are being asked to put in a big VFL game this week. Fair enough.

Think Jones may sneak in at the expense of a tall that doesn't come up. I'm thinking they may rest Weitering. Not sure. Maybe Kreuzer doesn't' come up. We'll see.

I wouldn't mind Jones on Franklin as a left field one. Or in the ruck even to play that role he did in the VFL against Willi last weekend.

As l've mentioned previously, I'm not against trialing a bloke like Lachie Plowman or Caleb Marchbank forward.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2017 Round 6: Pre game premonitions: Carlton vs Sydney
Simply cannot have Kerridge, Buckley nor Boekhorst playing ones.

Jones should be considered. Reckon he could hold down a key defensive post myself. Could also play ruck/forward. His effort, tackling, grunt work and general physicality would be very, very handy!!! Much just depends on the structure they want, how many talls, Kreuzer, etc?

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL 2017 Round #2: Carlton vs Williamstown
Quote from: laj on
Something interesting from Coopps on BigFooty.

"I was standing next to our bench, directly behind the guy keeping track of the GPS data on a laptop. I could read all the stats, and can tell you that at 3/4 time Harry was 2nd for total amount of ground covered. He was up over 10km, with guys like Buckley and Boekhorst just below 8. I was watching him closely, and he doesn't stop moving. Don't worry about the tank!"

I agree completely. His tank and work rate seem like things to not be worried about. Very good work rate IMO. KJ and others could take note of that. I like that Jones' work rate is big, huge actually, and young Pat Kerr seems to have a healthy appetite for hard work and work rate also.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2017 Round 6: Pre game premonitions: Carlton vs Sydney
If fit, Kreuzer comes back in, Phillips out. Thomas should come back via the VFL IMO.

Otherwise, this week, I'd keep the rest of the team, the same.

Possibly, Macreadie out for McKay to come in (then reshuffle the talls somewhat), but in all honesty, I have no problem with the two most impressive players form our VFL game against Willi (in my opinion) in Cuningham ad McKay, playing one more week in the VFL, and doing more of the same. Though, have no problem with them playing AFL either. Thought they looked a class above. Cuningham is ready IMO, McKay too really. They're both working really hard too. Gut feel, says both listed as emergencies along with Billie Smedts this week, with one change being Kreuzer in and Phillips out, who needs more game time at VFL level for sure.

I tell you what, Liam Jones, was fantastic against Willi too. Played ruck and was like an extra mid so far as pressure acts go. Just fantastic. Took some very good around the ground marks too. Like him down back also. Reckon that's his go now as I've said previously. Not as a genuine key forward. Keeping some pressure on the likes of Casboult, etc too which can only be a good thing. Would now like to see that consistency in his game at VFL level. Only 25 yo I think and pretty rugged, strong and rough type now around the contest. He helped our mids alot in the VFL v Will-town.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2017 Round 4 : Post Game thread - Carlton V Gold Coast
Quote from: Thryleon on
Whilst I don't dispute that this isnt a good strategy, I think we may have been able to get the win vs Melbourne and Gold Coast with the odd more mature player.

Of course, thats no guarantee, but we would be having a very different conversation now if we were 3 and 1, instead of 1 and 3.

No way of telling. However, I would go the other way, and say that we did as well as we did with the young blokes playing, and that we would not have done as well with the likes of Kerridge, Palmer, etc playing. Bolton has got it right IMO. You can tell that the clean hands, pace, zip and skills from the younger blokes is much better IMO.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Exhibition Match: Northern Blues vs U18's
Jones playing as a Key Defender, and doing well. Who'd have thunk it....???

Gee, I called for this 2 years ago. Play him as a key defender I said. I got shot down on here by the unimaginative ones!  8)

Look, Liam Jones has some excellent tools in his kit bag - those being genuine power, pace, agility and a big leap. He has good size (height and body) and seemingly pretty good determination. Simply, cannot see why he has not been played as a Key defender at VFL level, then at AFL level. He is only 25 years old still for crying out loud! This year, he plays as Key Defender at VFL level and we at least get a good look at him in that role, before we cut him at seasons end. He aint going to make it at ADL level as a Key Forward IMO, so play him as a Key Defender. Nothing to lose.

IF, he does well as a key defender he'll be an asset as I think he's a very different type of 'tall' or KPP to those of Plowman, Weitering and Marchbank. More power and pace with Jones plus his spring.

Keep it up LJ. Exciting. Let's see how he goes each week now. KJ as a Key Defender makes sense too. Jones at FB and Jaksch at CHB.

Keep McKay, JGM and Kerr as the Key Forwards at VFL level for the time being.

No harm in giving this set up a go at VFL level I say!